Caffination s2e3: Mui Expensivo

Amber: Hello everybody, welcome back to season 2 episode 3.
Amber: This is more expensive though.
Amber: It's also known as episode 562.
Amber: Today we will be talking about a lot of things, just stick around to find out.
Paul: Yeah.
Paul: So we got a great show lined up for you today.
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Paul: So we have a great show lined up for you today.
Paul: It's been a long week around here.
Paul: I got to tell you that.
Paul: I'm pretty sure Amber will will agree with me on this.
Paul: Why has this been a long week, Amber?
Amber: I've had tech week.
Paul: So for those of you not in the know in the theater community, especially in high school and whatnot, they have tech week where the lead up to a show
Amber: they rehearse rehearse rehearse rehearse rehearse rehearse it is every single day of the week leading up to opening night sometimes till nine or ten o'clock at night and those days are fun the first day we had was a lot of technical difficulties so we just had to troubleshoot
Paul: And you know what, that kind of brings us into what we're talking about here today.
Paul: Today we're going to be talking about video games running the gamut from Fortnite to Mario to Undertale.
Paul: And then we're going to go through a piece of baseball history.
Paul: but the reason that today's episode is called muy expensivo and which is why you are going to be hearing us sip throughout the show one of the last stories in today's episode is about how we were at a lovely cafe Sumatra cafe in Pennsylvania and
Paul: we were gifted some Luac coffee, and we'll explain all about that, but just know that we are enjoying it throughout the show, right Amber?
Amber: Yeah.
Paul: Alright, so Geeky this week, you didn't have much time to do anything else, and I think if you count theater as Geeky,
Paul: You were very geeky.
Amber: Yeah, I sang, got my mic done, got to talk a lot.
Amber: My mic, we found out, we had to tune it up with the volume actually on my mic pack because the volume thing on the board for school.
Paul: The mixer?
Amber: Yeah, the mixer was not high enough for my voice apparently.
Paul: which we also had that same issue today while we were prepping for the episode.
Paul: I had to increase the gain on hers, which is probably what they had to do for that.
Paul: And I told her by the time we're done doing a couple of these episodes in a row where she explained or I explained everything that's on our mixer and everything, she's going to be able to be running the soundboard.
Amber: I mean, I've already fixed things today, so I guess we could call that geeky.
Paul: Yeah, she fixed a couple switches and flicks that got the show actually up and running, so it's wonderful.
Paul: Alright, lanterns update.
Paul: Now, you were unsure as to why I was talking about the lanterns today, I'm pretty sure, right?
Paul: Yes, it was.
Paul: All right, so we talked all about the Lanterns TV show that's coming out that's going to be focused on the Green Lanterns, particularly Hal Jordan and Jon Stewart.
Paul: Jon Stewart being the up-and-coming Lantern and Hal Jordan being the grizzled veteran.
Paul: But my daughter was having a little bit of a identity crisis about your group chat this week.
Paul: And one of the fun things that she was doing was they started out as the very geeky
Amber: The Chipmunks.
Paul: The Chipmunks.
Paul: And then they went on to the Ninja Turtles as they got more people.
Paul: And then they went on to what else?
Amber: We were the Ninja Turtles for a little bit, I think.
Amber: And then we went to the Power Rangers.
Paul: So she asked me what could have more.
Amber: Yeah, because we have eight members in our group chat.
Amber: So we had to change the names.
Amber: So we made it to Lantern Corp.
Paul: yes so they're the lantern core uh there are because everybody who gets added to the check gets added as a specific color uh amber and i found out that she is the orange lantern for avarice and uh that is kind of funny uh there is also only i didn't realize this because i guess i hadn't been steeped in uh
Paul: lantern mythology of of late, but there is only one orange lantern.
Paul: He has a very funny name.
Paul: I can't remember it off the top of my head, but he creates other greedy versions of lanterns as he fights them.
Paul: So that's Amber.
Paul: Yeah, pretty much.
Paul: All right.
Amber: The first thing we got up for you here today is Punch has a girlfriend.
Amber: Can you believe it?
Amber: Well, I mean, if you can't.
Paul: So just for those of you who don't remember, Punch was the monkey that was in Japan and he was abandoned by his mother and he pulled on everybody's heartstrings by dragging around a stuffed monkey because no other real monkey would play with him.
Paul: And then he was adopted by another monkey after a couple
Paul: days or weeks, I can't even remember how long it took.
Paul: And now, he has a buddy his own age, and they are spending a lot of time together.
Amber: Yes, they are.
Paul: And it is adorable.
Amber: It is, but sadly, we do not have a name for the monkey.
Paul: I think it should be Judy, and you won't get that reference, that's okay.
Paul: No, I won't.
Paul: Alright, so the next thing we got up for you here, have we tried using gophers on the problems?
Paul: Because there's a lot of problems in the world, the world kind of stinks right about now, and uh…
Paul: I was just wondering, have we tried using gophers?
Paul: Now, you wouldn't understand what I mean unless you knew the story of Mount St. Helens.
Paul: It erupted in 1980, shortly after I was born, believe it or not, and two years later scientists were trying to help reclaim and
Paul: you know, revive the area around Mount St. Helens.
Paul: And so what they decided to do was drop a poo load of gophers on the actual barren soil.
Paul: And what did they do?
Paul: They aerated the soil.
Paul: They spread things around and these gophers basically saved the environment.
Paul: So 43 years later, it is a thriving environment on Mount St. Helens.
Paul: So I thought that was cool and wanted to share it with the rest of the group.
Paul: So, what do we got next, Amber?
Amber: We have… Oh wait, this one's me too.
Paul: Yeah.
Paul: Sorry.
Paul: So, I know that people of a certain age have Doom on the brain.
Paul: And Doom is a iconic first-person shooter.
Paul: I will show Amber after the show because I don't remember if I've ever actually shown her Doom before this.
Paul: It came out in the early 90s, I think 93, I could be wrong, shortly right after a game called Castle Wolfenstein, or Wolfenstein 3D, I'm sorry.
Paul: So it was a…
Paul: First-person shooter, it was one of the first of its kind, and it was immensely popular.
Paul: There's Doom, Doom 2, Doom 3.
Paul: I had to upgrade my PC to the nth degree to run Doom 3, and it was mostly shadows and dark, so it was very frustrating.
Paul: But for Doom 1, there is a certain subset of people around my age who played that game so often because they actually gave out the game.
Paul: It was shareware.
Paul: which means you could get the first three levels of Doom for free from anybody who had a disc.
Paul: You were allowed to share it.
Paul: Doesn't that sound pretty cool?
Paul: Yeah.
Paul: So you got this, you played the first three levels, and if you felt good enough, you could spend the extra money and…
Paul: get the full game so it's it you know like i always thought that was kind of cool so what we're talking about doom on the brain is because the scientists have uh dug into it and they have actually trained a group of neurons it took them a week but there is a group of neurons on a petri dish that are playing the first doom which is weird because it's basically a slice of somebody's brain sitting in a dish
Paul: in some lab and it is playing the first doom.
Paul: I've also seen people like, it's kind of a challenge to get doom because it's a really lightweight program from the nineties to run on different things.
Paul: And the weirdest thing I've seen doom run on recently is a pregnancy test.
Paul: So like you'd look at the little screen and it would be going through the level playing.
Paul: It was the weirdest thing.
Amber: I think my brother has the game right.
Amber: Paul has it.
Paul: Paul has the latest two editions of Doom.
Paul: We have a couple different editions of Doom on the Xbox.
Paul: Alright, next little thing we got for you here.
Paul: Thank you, Japan!
Amber: Next thing we have is, in Japan there's a ski resort, and it had a Super Mario's bullet bill, and it was going down the slope, and it crashed onto the side.
Paul: Yeah, so if you are at all aware of the Mario Brothers character Bullet Bill, are you, Amber?
Paul: Have you seen that bullet?
Amber: Yeah, in Mario Kart.
Paul: Okay, you've seen it in Mario Kart.
Paul: Well, when he first came out in one of the early Mario Brothers things, he was annoying as all get out.
Paul: Basically, he shoots at you, fired from different things, and if you jump on top of him, you can kill him.
Paul: He's very destructive.
Paul: That's kind of his modus operandi.
Paul: And the best part about this is it totally destroys the sidelines of this ski resort.
Paul: Everybody's watching these cardboard creations come down the hill and this thing just takes off like a shock going straight down and plowing right through.
Paul: It's pretty funny.
Amber: Yes, it was.
Paul: All right, next little thing we got up for you here.
Paul: There's a new animator coming from Studio Bones and the author of Fullmetal Alchemist.
Paul: It's called Daemons of the Shadow Realm.
Paul: So if you are unfamiliar, this is Fullmetal Alchemist Brotherhood, which Amber has started.
Paul: She's up to episode 13?
Paul: Yeah.
Paul: Okay, so she's up to episode 13.
Paul: We're not going to share any spoilers for it, despite the fact that it ended over 16 years ago.
Amber: Yeah, especially because I have I tried watching and then I just forgot about it and then I started watching one piece and I'm almost at a hundred episodes out of 1100
Paul: So she's just starting the journey.
Paul: I'm about halfway through at 728.
Paul: But, uh, it's kind of funny.
Paul: So, uh, yeah, the cool thing about this is that, uh, they're getting the band back together.
Paul: Studio Bones is the one that did Fullmetal Alchemist Brotherhood, and it is an incredibly well-received anime.
Paul: It is beautiful, and it is compelling, and I love the story, and
Paul: It's kind of funny because the way that Fullmetal Alchemist came out in Fullmetal Alchemist Brotherhood, there's actually two different anime.
Paul: And I don't know if I've explained this before on the show, have I?
Amber: I don't think you have.
Paul: Okay.
Paul: So the way that this went was there's a manga, Fullmetal Alchemist.
Paul: It's being written.
Paul: So they, it was very popular.
Paul: So what they did was they started an anime called Fullmetal Alchemist.
Paul: Same name as manga.
Paul: No problem.
Paul: No worries.
Paul: The problem is the anime actually caught up to where the manga was and they wanted to keep going.
Paul: They didn't want to go on hiatus.
Paul: So they started
Paul: inventing the story on their own, and they started making changes to things so that they could tell a compelling and complete story.
Paul: And you know what?
Paul: It's not a bad story.
Paul: It in and of itself, the original Fullmetal Alchemist, is a very good story, told front to back.
Paul: However, it pales in comparison, because after the manga was done, they went back, starting in 2011,
Paul: So starting in 2011, they started recording it again, and this time they stuck to the manga script.
Paul: And so Fullmetal Alchemist Brotherhood tells a slightly different story, but it is infinitely better, I would say.
Paul: And the studio that brought us Brotherhood
Paul: And the author that bought it brought us the the original Fullmetal Alchemist are moving together for a new anime So there's a lot of hype surrounding it.
Paul: I really hope it lives up to that and Maybe Amber and I can watch this one together.
Paul: We'll see
Amber: maybe um it's kind of reminding me of the my hero academia finishing and then they have this new villain arc thing but it's not really a villain arc thing i thought it was vigilantes it's vigilantes this meaning like all of the lowly people like the lowly time the street level heroes yeah as opposed to like the country savers
Paul: Yeah.
Paul: So that that's one of the fun things that when Amber and I are working our way through the Netflix Daredevil and Defenders series, like I tried to explain to her is like, you know, there's a difference between the the Marvel superheroes that are like god tier Thor, giant people going around doing big things.
Paul: And then there's the people who are like Daredevil, who are much more street level and everything.
Paul: So it's kind of interesting to see how all that plays out.
Paul: What's the next thing that we got going for yet, Amber?
Amber: Believe that is also you?
Paul: No, that is Fortnite.
Amber: No, it is.
Amber: That's right.
Amber: Um.
Amber: Give me a second to open up the link.
Amber: The link was not opened.
Amber: Okay, so the Fortnite founder, who is Tim Sweeney, just paid 15 million to protect wildlife, meaning at first he started with 1,500 acre per cell of land, and that was called the stone pines, and he keeps adding to it.
Amber: And he also owns a seven thousand acre plot of land called the Box Creek Wilderness.
Paul: OK, basically, he's keeping these things wild so that animals and like biomes are not lost.
Paul: I actually thought that was pretty cool because he's somebody doing something good with his money.
Paul: Yeah.
Paul: Last little thing we got for you in the GeekCraft section here at the Cabination Podcast is
Amber: the Undertale Symphony, which if you do not know what Undertale Symphony is, it is a video game that I believe is only for PCs.
Paul: No, there's, uh, you can get it on the Switch.
Amber: You can?
Paul: Yes.
Amber: Oh, I didn't know that.
Amber: So, um, it's very pixelated.
Amber: It's not like these 3D animated, uh, games that are here anymore.
Amber: It is just pixels.
Amber: And it's really cool.
Amber: You have to get through all these puzzles and it's a lot of fun.
Amber: I started it.
Amber: I was not able to finish because I kind of gave up because I started it when I was 10 years old.
Amber: My brother, on the other hand, finished it about three times.
Paul: Yeah, he's finished it several times.
Paul: He's gotten all of the different endings.
Paul: And that's one of the cool things about it.
Paul: You can get the pacifist ending, you can get the ending where you kill all the other critters in there.
Paul: I mean, there's just all kinds of things you can do.
Paul: And the reason that it looks the way it is, is it's like a retro video game.
Paul: and it uses sprites and pixels instead of the 3D models, and it's an indie game, so it's not made by one of the AA studios churning out Madden's every year.
Paul: This is one guy who sat down and programmed a game that millions of people love, which is really cool, but what are we talking about today, Amber?
Amber: We are talking about how there is a, I think, an orchestra that plays all of the songs or like tunes that you hear in this game and it's going on tour.
Amber: So it's actually coming near us soon.
Amber: And I don't know if my brother would go see it, but he might.
Paul: I actually asked him about it and he said that that was too people-y for him.
Amber: So.
Amber: Sounds pretty cool, though.
Amber: But I think next is… you.
Amber: Fire in the Hole?
Paul: Fire in the Hole, yes!
Paul: Okay, so we're moving on into the food and caffeinated bits section here at the Caffeination Podcast.
Paul: In case you'd like to jump ship right now, you can find us over at www.caffi.com.
Paul: If you are looking to send me comments, feedback, suggestions, you can do so at caffeination.gmail.com.
Paul: But stick around for the food and caffeinate a bit section.
Paul: The first one up here, every guy I have shown this little thing to has loved it.
Paul: They've said that this is one of the coolest gadgets they've ever seen and they all want one.
Paul: So it's a beer mortar.
Paul: It is, it is a, uh, like how do I describe this?
Paul: It is a giant tube that
Paul: when you drop your beer into it, it pops the cap off and shoots it forward.
Paul: So it's like artillery meets beer, which is kind of funny, kind of cool.
Paul: And I got to tell you, I would probably drink a couple more beers if I could shoot the cap.
Amber: I think it also reminds me of those little rocks that you have when you're younger and like all the air comes out of it.
Amber: You put the rocket on it and then like the little pedal, you like step on it and it just goes,
Paul: yeah of course it's nothing like those uh those fairies that you had for a while oh my goodness oh these things had little motors and you would shoot them up into the air and they would swing around and they had uh wings and
Amber: It was so bad.
Amber: I did see a video surfaced on my 40 page like years later, like I think the other, like last year.
Amber: It was of this one little girl who set off the little fairy and it went into a fire, their fireplace.
Paul: Yeah, I saw that one.
Paul: I do, however, have nightmares about those fairies because I remember pulling them out of your hair when they would get stuck.
Paul: Oh my God.
Paul: Yes, they were horrible.
Paul: So moving right along, the next thing that we got for you here is watch your Reese cups.
Paul: So I am a big fan of Reese cups.
Paul: Do you like Reese cups, Amber?
Amber: Yeah.
Paul: Sorry about that.
Paul: It's been a long week, people.
Paul: All right.
Paul: So Reese cups are great.
Paul: The peanut butter, the chocolate, the whole nine yards.
Paul: It is wonderful.
Paul: However, Reese's is trying to cut corners and on some of their items, like the Reese eggs and things like that, they are actually replacing it.
Paul: We're replacing the language rather on the,
Paul: packages instead of saying milk chocolate and peanut butter it now says chocolate candy and peanut butter cream which are two lower quality versions of the same thing I think just to be chocolate candy it has to have chocolate flavoring and have sugar sadly those are kind of my favorite
Paul: Yeah, so I don't know if that's new this year or if it's last year, but what I'm really concerned about is that this doesn't spread to the actual Reese cups, you know what I mean?
Amber: Yeah, sadly, whenever I… Like whenever it's around that holiday time when you get those Reese's, I know like everyone I know really likes the shaped ones because you get more peanut butter in them.
Paul: Although I will say that the heart-shaped ones look
Paul: not very good anymore.
Paul: I don't know why.
Paul: They just can't get a good heart.
Paul: Uh, the pumpkin ones are just blobs.
Paul: I mean, they're all basically just blobs with sugar, peanut butter and chocolate.
Paul: And there's absolutely nothing wrong with that.
Paul: Right?
Amber: No, there's nothing wrong.
Amber: Personally, I think everyone can agree.
Amber: The bat ones are the best.
Amber: I don't know why.
Paul: I'm actually partial to the tree ones, believe it or not.
Paul: So that's me.
Amber: Yeah, I personally just like the bats because they're kind of cool and they actually kind of look like a bat.
Paul: Alright, next up we got ordering coffee in where?
Paul: In Welsh?
Paul: Yeah, in Wales.
Paul: Wales is the name of the country.
Paul: They speak Welsh there.
Paul: Yes, you are correct.
Amber: Okay, now if you're going to buy a cappuccino, you're going to say frothy coffee and I'm not going to say it in the accident
Amber: in the accent because I don't feel like I would say it right.
Paul: I don't think I can do a Welsh accent, but that's okay.
Paul: Um, the, like it, it, this is a link to a post I saw over on Instagram that actually is really kind of interesting because these are words that did not exist.
Paul: Coffee is a drink from sub-Saharan Africa, Ethiopia specifically.
Paul: It is, uh,
Paul: It is steeped in other cultures.
Paul: So when it made its way to Wales, they had to find a way to encompass what this was within the confines of the language.
Paul: So you have the frothy coffee for cappuccino and you have the coffee dre la frite for a latte.
Paul: I don't know.
Paul: I guess that's coffee with milk, maybe.
Paul: And there's a couple other ones, but that's OK.
Paul: So for an espresso, you ask for a deffo.
Amber: Yeah, and if you just want an Americano, it's just coffee.
Paul: Yeah, you say coffee, but it's spelled differently, so that's how you know it's Welsh.
Paul: It's C-O-F-F-I.
Paul: Alright, moving right along, the next thing we got for you here, talking about expensive coffee, I was unaware that this was even a type of coffee.
Paul: So I saw this article, it came across my feed a couple weeks ago, and I was like, we gotta talk about this.
Paul: But apparently, there is a varietal of coffee.
Paul: So the most of the coffee we drink is Arabica.
Paul: Then I knew about there's a
Paul: different variety, basically a different species in the same vein.
Paul: It's still coffee, but it is robust.
Paul: It is called robusta.
Paul: So that is what it is.
Paul: It has higher caffeine.
Paul: The taste is a little bit mellower and blander.
Paul: Uh, it doesn't have the same kind of, uh, interesting flavors that the Arabica tends to.
Paul: And so I was like, I know that they've been experimenting with all of the different other types of coffee varietals out there, but I didn't know that there was a coffee varietal called.
Paul: Eugenoids?
Paul: I don't even know how to say that, but for a single bag of it, it's $20,000.
Paul: A 60 kilogram bag.
Paul: That is insane.
Paul: This is grown in a sensitive climate.
Paul: It is incredibly low, uh, production.
Paul: So they don't make a lot of it during the year and it is
Paul: very well sought after.
Paul: The funny thing is, like, I thought since I've been doing this podcast since 2007, and drinking coffee since significantly before then, I would have heard of all of the types of coffee that, like, you would think all of it would be old hat at this point in time.
Amber: I mean, personally, I don't think I would ever buy coffee that's 20,000, I think you said.
Paul: Yeah, $20,000, but I mean, that's for a 60 kilogram bag.
Paul: They're saying it can cost you $350 for a pound of this stuff.
Paul: Those are high numbers.
Paul: Those are big numbers.
Paul: Yeah, no thanks.
Paul: $350 for one pound of this coffee.
Paul: I wonder what could be more expensive than that.
Amber: I wonder too.
Paul: That's probably Luak coffee.
Paul: So when we were at the Sumatra Cafe, the gentleman behind the counter shared with me a sampling of coffee that he said was Luak coffee.
Paul: I unfortunately said, oh, you mean Kopi Luak coffee.
Paul: And he goes, yes, that's what I'm talking about.
Paul: Unbeknownst to me, in Indonesian, the word for coffee
Paul: is kopi so i said oh so you mean coffee luac coffee not my breast best uh no but it's also kind of like how all of us say chai tea which is just saying tt
Paul: Yep, so it is what it is.
Paul: But the gentleman behind the counter shared a sample of Luac coffee with us, and this is the most expensive coffee in the world.
Paul: It is an interesting story.
Paul: So let me spin you a tale of what this coffee is.
Paul: The palm civet is a animal that lives in Sumatra.
Paul: It looks like a cat and a raccoon had a baby.
Paul: It is a little bit lemur-ish, but not quite, and it is very eager to eat coffee cherries, so the fruit that surrounds the coffee.
Paul: So it eats the fruit.
Paul: Unfortunately, the animal does not take the seed out before it eats it, and it loves coffee cherries.
Paul: So it eats a lot of the coffee cherries.
Paul: And then after it's done, and all of its digestive enzymes have worked their magic on the beans,
Paul: It is deposited in the forest floor as poo.
Paul: And then people come around and they pick up this poo, they clean it off, they get the beans out of it, they roast it, you drink it.
Paul: And that is Kopi Luwak coffee.
Paul: It is supposed to be some of the most sublime coffee ever.
Paul: Um, the funny thing is I've actually had it one other time when a, when a company sent me a sample and they were a company specifically focused on, uh,
Paul: gourmet types of coffee.
Paul: So they had Kopi Luwak coffee.
Paul: They had, there's another kind of coffee that elephants eat.
Paul: I mean, I've never tried that.
Paul: Uh, but they, they sent me this and I shared a cup with my father and it was one of the coolest experiences I had doing this podcast.
Paul: So now we've been gifted another sample of Luwak coffee and I get to share it with my daughter.
Paul: So that's what we've been drinking the entire episode.
Paul: Thank you to the fine folks at Sumatra Cafe.
Paul: It is wonderful, but it tastes a little different than last time.
Paul: Like, when I was building it up for Amber, I said, you know, there's going to be no acidity.
Paul: It's going to be bright.
Paul: It's going to be wonderful.
Paul: And there's a little bit of a bite to it, wouldn't you say?
Amber: Yeah, I can't, like, usually you're not supposed to add any add-ins, but for me, I don't really like, uh, black coffee, just, like, straight black coffee.
Amber: I kind of like, at least a little bit in it, so I put a little bit of vanilla syrup in it, and, um…
Paul: Shun the non-believer.
Paul: Heretic.
Amber: How dare you.
Amber: I, it still tastes good, it's just, it had a little bit of a bite.
Amber: I did taste it without it, so…
Paul: Yes, thank you for that.
Paul: That's kinda like putting ketchup on a steak though, I gotta say.
Paul: That's rude.
Paul: I know you don't like steak.
Paul: Fine, that's kinda like putting ketchup on sushi.
Amber: Eww!
Amber: No it's not!
Paul: all right the last little thing that we got for you here today before we get to the final thought is would you spend two thousand dollars for a shot at world baseball classic history if you are unaware there was a coffee component to this year's world baseball classic and that's where players from around the world get together in fact there was a
Paul: A player from, I believe, Slovakia, who was an electrician who struck out Shohei Otani, a man who has a $700 million contract.
Paul: Oh my god.
Paul: So an electrician did that.
Paul: So it's cool!
Paul: But the team from Italy was fueled by espresso.
Paul: This is very close to my heart.
Paul: I love this idea.
Paul: I'm not Italian, so that's OK. My children are just a smidge Italian, so that is fine.
Paul: And we drink espresso around here.
Paul: It is all well and good.
Paul: But after a home run, what would they do?
Amber: They would take some espresso and drink it.
Amber: But I'm just going to dabble in on the fact that he said his children drink it.
Amber: I drink it.
Paul: Yes, my son does not drink coffee, but or of any kind or flavor.
Amber: No, even though my mother said that she would never and that she tried mine and then started drinking coffee.
Paul: So if you have $2,000, you too can join in the coffee experience and get your very own espresso machine and actually have it be the espresso machine that was in the dugout of the Italian baseball team at the World Baseball Classic.
Paul: but there were two because they had two different locations that they were playing in.
Paul: So this is the first espresso machine, not the second, just in case you had $2,000.
Paul: If you have $2,000, please feel free to send any of it over.
Amber: And thank you to the Sumatra Cafe for the coffee.
Amber: It was very delicious.
Amber: I will say, I think this is one of the best coffees I've had.
Paul: That's wonderful.
Paul: I'm very glad that it lived up to the hype.
Paul: So that's something I'm always a little bit worried about when I tell people about different things and we really pump it up.
Paul: I get really worried that people are gonna try it and they're not gonna enjoy it as much as I did.
Paul: So thank you.
Paul: Thank you for enjoying this with me.
Amber: All right, what do we got next?
Amber: Is next the last thing, the final thought?
Amber: Yes, it is.
Amber: And it is AIR.
Paul: Alright, so here's my spiel about AI.
Paul: The way that they actually went about training all of these AIs by feeding it copyrighted works from legitimate artists bothers me.
Paul: And you shouldn't be able to type into a random AI online, make me a new Aerosmith song, and it poops out, for lack of a better word.
Paul: Something that sounds vaguely like Steven Tyler might have thought about at once.
Paul: So, and then there's the people who are using it to produce artwork.
Paul: And that just bothers me not only as an artist, but it bothers me as somebody who consumes art.
Paul: I don't want to see what a computer was thinking when you asked it to put, you know, like a diaper on a shark.
Paul: Like, I mean, if you can draw something funny that has a diaper on a shark, I would gladly love to watch it or love to look at it, but it's just not something that I'm really interested in.
Paul: And I kind of want AI to do the things that I can't do.
Paul: Like if I'm asking you to search something that's like a giant database of millions of records and give me information on it.
Paul: I want you to be able to chew on those millions of records and give me information that is is gleaned from it.
Paul: Tell me what zip codes to target for things.
Paul: Tell me what like, I mean, there's so many things that AI can do that I can't do without years and years of access to all kinds of crazy stuff.
Paul: But I mean, it
Paul: I don't want it to do anything creative.
Paul: I'm creative.
Paul: I would like to continue to be creative.
Amber: So I would actually like to input on something.
Amber: Apparently, Sora AI, which is, if you don't know, the video generating app and API as of March 21st of this year is shut down.
Amber: And apparently it is shut down because of high computational costs.
Amber: of generating videos and strategic shift to focus on agenic AI coding tools and robotics, yadda yadda yadda.
Amber: And also, apparently Disney had a deal with them, which it was the 1 billion amount of money for a partnership and license with Disney, which allowed the use of characters like Mickey Mouse and Sora, and now that's been terminated.
Paul: So it's kind of funny because anybody who's ever done a video podcast, I mean, talking back years and years, we'll tell you the video is expensive.
Paul: It is expensive to start a podcast like we have here.
Paul: And the only reason we were able to start it up is because I've spent years collecting stuff like microphones and mixers and things.
Paul: But to do a video podcast, which I did for a little while,
Paul: There is a huge amount of back end.
Paul: And when you are generating videos like video is expensive to generate.
Paul: There's a lot of CPU cycles that go into that.
Paul: So I am not surprised that they are shutting down.
Paul: But the funny thing is, I think Google still has a video generation agent working right now.
Paul: And there's a different one for images called Nano Banana.
Paul: So, but that is about as much.
Paul: Oh, the, the story that we linked up here, all this AI nonsense is basically artists who are sharing their work online are now loading extra characters and stuff into it that you cannot see with the naked eye to poison it in case AI were to ingest it.
Paul: So if you have a bunch of really awesome photos because you are a slam jam and photographer out there and you put them all up,
Paul: you can run them through this tool it will put information in your files that you can't see so your photos still look as amazing as they are but when AI sucks those photos in it messes them up and can't understand what's about them so it's a really cool idea and I like the poison pill so
Paul: That's what that story is all about.
Paul: And that's what sort of like we actually cut a section on AI in the last show.
Paul: And I wanted to talk about it because it can be useful, but it's really frustrating as a creator.
Amber: Yeah.
Amber: But with that, I think this is time to say thank you for tuning in, as my group chat would say, and stay cabinet.